Road to Radical Visibility Show/Podcast
Road to Radical Visibility Show/Podcast
FREE YOURSELF & BE YOU - A Gay Man's journey to owning and standing in his Truth w/Skip Sams.
From a life of alcohol/drug addition, Bi-Polar disorder, sexual abuse (tigger warning, Skip shares his experience of being sexually assaulted), and trauma to thriving and as an LGBTQIA+ community member, helping others heal and realizing he has so much more life to live.
For over a decade, Skip has been defying these diagnoses and helping musicians and performing artists who have lost their technical skills, disconnected from their inner music, and whose spark of creativity has gone dark.
In this powerful, vulnerable and raw interview Skip deep dives and shares with us his journey to finding out who he was, who he is, who he aspires to be and how he stands in his TRUTH!🔥
In this episode of Road to Radical Visibility I have a deeply moving conversation with my guest Skip Sams, founder and head coach of the Creative Purpose Project, we explore the transformative power of authenticity and vulnerability in achieving personal and societal change.
Skip generously shares his journey through addiction, mental health struggles, and an HIV diagnosis, and how these experiences led him to discover his TRUTH and stand and say "This is my truth". 🦄
We also both share the time we realized we were gay and lesbian (respectively, lol). He knew when he was 5, I knew when I was 8 (when I kissed the neighbor girl over the summer). 🥰
His inspiring story of recovery, forgiveness, and embracing his identity as a gay man, even in the face of systemic oppression, serves as a beacon of hope for the LGBTQIA+ community and beyond who are struggling to find their own path to radical visibility.
Together, we discuss the importance of sharing our stories, standing in our truth, and actively seeking to create a more inclusive and compassionate world.
Join us as we celebrate the resilience and strength of the LGBTQIA+ community🏳️🌈
Be part of the movement towards greater authenticity, kindness, and liberation. Listen in and be inspired.
Get to know Skip! Check out the links below:
Website: https://www.creativepurposeproject.com
FB: https://www.facebook.com/lpskipsams
IG: https://www.instagram.com/soberonstage/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SkipSams
Email: skip@skipsams.com
Did you have an Ah-Ha moment from this episode? I would love to hear about it! No seriously, I want to hear from you! Send me a DM or email at rachel@rachelfreemonsowers.com.
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It was that moment that this thought changed. I'm like well, wait a minute, if you're 40 and you've messed up the last 20 years, what if you do something the next 20 years to make up for the last 20? And then you'll only be 60, and 60 is not that old. And wow, Skip, if you'd lived to be 60, you could live to be 80. And that just blew me away, because I had never seen my life past 40.
Speaker 2:Hello, beautiful people, just a little warning listening to the Road to Radical Visibility podcast may result in you feeling confident, af, free from the expectations and opinions of others, and give you the ability to create ultimate self-trust in who you are, what you say and how you show up in every part of your life. I guarantee you this episode will empower you to be 100% yourself 100% of the time. No shame or guilt needed. Now let's dive in. Hello, my beautiful friends, and welcome to another episode of Road to Radical Visibility. My name is Rachel Freeman-Sowers, also known as the Break Free Bitch, because I am passionate about helping people just like you break free from the toxic social constructs, expectations and opinions that are keeping you from experiencing your life exactly the way that you want to. And if you've hung out here for very long, you'll know that my personal and professional motto is being 100% yourself 100% of the time. No shame or guilt needed. And I am so happy to have another guest of the LGBTQ Plus community with me today, because it is Pride Month and all month we will be celebrating for sure. Yes, yes. So I'm going to introduce my guest right now.
Speaker 2:Skip Samms is the founder and head coach of the Creative Purpose Project. He is an award-winning composer and multimedia producer, another music person on the podcast. I'm digging this so much. Skip has over 16 years of recovery from crystal meth, alcoholism and bipolar disorder. In 2004, he was diagnosed with HIV. For over a decade, skip has been defined these diagnoses, thank you, thank you, thank you. And helping musicians and performing artists who have lost their technical skills, disconnected from their inner music, and whose spark of creativity has gone dark. His mission is to help 10,000 musicians share their light in hope of recovery through 10,000 recordings holy guacamole and 10,000 performances by 2030. Can you say career or entrepreneurial goals? for sure, welcome Skip to the show. Thank you for being here.
Speaker 1:Thanks, rachel, i'm glad to be here, really glad to be here.
Speaker 2:Well, and I'm so excited because this month is going to be full of kick-ass. Members of the LGBTQ plus community, you know your interview couldn't come at a better time for our community to uplift and empower. So with that I will start with. The first question I ask every single guest is what does radical visibility mean to you?
Speaker 1:Radical visibility. I like the term. When you first ask that it's like, hmm, what does that mean? So what does it mean to me? one of my favorite phrases, and it's more than a phrase but stand in your truth, to be able to stand in my truth, and no matter what the circumstances, And that's tea with a capital T, right? The truth that does not change. Little truths can change, right? We change different areas of our lives, our relationship change and you know, but it's always getting to the core of that capital T and peeling off the layers of the constructs and of the things we were taught domesticated, as the four agreements say. You know, we're domesticated, This is who you are, This is you're a man, This is what you do, You're this religion. So this is how you, you know all that. Peeling all that domestication away and to be able to stand in my truth and say this is me.
Speaker 2:I love that so much. Yes, Capital T on the truth, And it's so true. I mean like just through the bio and I can't wait to hear more of your story. So let's just dive into that piece of it. Like how did you find what your truth was in your story?
Speaker 1:It's always, you know, i believe, looking back, i always knew what was there, but because of all the ways we're domesticated and my religious teachings and you know all the different stuff, it just got muffled underneath of all that stuff. So for me, it started when I got sober, and when I got sober with the intention of living. You know, i tried to get sober before but the intention was to save a relationship or to make this person feel better or, you know, it wasn't simply I wanted to live. And when I got to that point and I started doing the work, for me the work is the 12 steps. I know there are many forms of recovery for different people and I respect them all. Mine is the 12 steps And in doing that work, that's when I just started to really get to know, like, who I was, who I am and who I aspire to be, and what's the line of truth that goes through all of those.
Speaker 2:So let me, I'm going to go back a little bit in time. When did you first know that you were gay? I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure, i'm not sure, i'm not sure. So When I was like five or six, i remember my mother had This Person she worked with And you know she's a mother of four and You know, in the early 70s, being a mother of four who works full time, had to be home and make dinner, you know all that stuff And so Occasionally he would come home With her So they can continue to work while she's getting Dinner made and stuff. Oh my God, this man was at five years old. I had the biggest crush on him. He was just like tall, he had dark hairs and like Some salt and pepper and it's just like these curls in his hair And I was just like.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, i remember finding my spelling words and like I was laughing, like, but you have me know these words, you know it's like. So there's that. That is like a very clear memory of like. And then going through elementary school is like, you know, i'm, i'm digging that, i'm digging the guys who like the chicks. I don't like the chicks, you know. And Yeah, back in the 70s we said chicks even in high, even in high school, even in elementary school.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You know it's so funny And go ahead. You know I was. I mean I was friends with all the girls. I was friends with them all. But you know, anyway, when I was 10.
Speaker 1:Was about the time Anita Bryant and Harvey milk were having like their Battles of. You know, anita Bryant Was on national news every night. She had her Hunts to get Gay public school teachers out of the classroom because they were recruiting children. Sound familiar And never dies. And Harvey milk was the first Elected Public official In the United States Who was, you know, fully out And so he, the two of them, just had, like this Behind the scenes battle going on And it was on the news every night.
Speaker 1:And you know, and doing my Fourth step And 12, you know my 12 step about, we do, we do Part of the fourth step. I think That you know. I think that You know, i think that was a first step And we look at what's my part in it And And working that process. I, you know Anita Bryant, was on my first resentment list, but in doing that work I realized You know what. I hope I get to meet her someday because I want to thank her, because she taught me, she showed me, she taught me, she taught me, she taught me, she taught me.
Speaker 1:You know, i learned that every night on the news I'm seeing this And it was like, oh, it wasn't like, oh, i want to be like them. It was like, oh, that's, that's who I am. You know it was. They didn't recruit me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I went for years to like trying to push it away. You know, i went for years after that of like I put myself through, i was going to be there. When I started to be there, i was like amazing, i was so great. But seriously, i kind of put myself through conversion therapy because I was constantly praying God, don't let me be gay, don't let me be gay. And when I was 14, i decided that I was going to be a minister. I started preaching when I was 14. And I was started seeing it At all around the. If I did this enough, god would change me and I wouldn't be gay. But at the same time, i'm learning about glory holes and how to find validation for my authentic self in ways that 12, 13, 14, 15 year olds should not be finding validation, nor from people who they should be finding validation from.
Speaker 2:So obviously the church has played like a role right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you know, and I think it's that part of my story right there. I just want to like figure out a way to present that to all these people who are again falling on, jumping on that bandwagon of you know the gays are, you know, recruiting our kids or brainwashing our kids and so forth. And you know, my parents were good parents right, they were. They were really good parents. They loved me. It was not even in their consciousness in the late 70s, early 80s. You know there's much more talk about sexuality now. It was, you know, the. What I told you about on the news is like when it started, but it wasn't even in their consciousness that one of their kids could be gay. So there were not conversations about it. And it wasn't like they were being avoided, it wasn't like they were like, oh no, we can't talk about that. Even that, even with that, i had, like the, i can't talk about this, right, i mean, i was seen on TV, you know that, what the church would say about this and so forth, and I did not feel safe talking into my parents about it And it's really important for me to say they were not doing anything to make me feel unsafe. Right, they're not. They were good parents. They still are.
Speaker 1:But I still at 12 years old with my curiosity, didn't have the internet but we had the public bus and I went to. I went downtown on the bus to the public library and I looked up what homosexuality was And I found books, not for kids, but I found books that are written for psychologists and psychiatrists. And you know, this was at a time when it was in 1975, i think is when it was taken off out of the whatever the AMA book or whatever It was. The Psychiatry Association, i don't know what it's called, but Psychiatrists of America decided that homosexuality is not a mental illness And that was published in 1975. Before that it was a mental illness. So I'm going out and exploring well, i'm going out and exploring at this time, but I'm also going exploring at the library, like what is this? I want to know And I'm reading. That's where I found out about, like, the glory holes. It wasn't from a book written for a kid to explain that. You know, we're the same. We're the same. You know that I'm accepted.
Speaker 1:It was at a book that I found written for a psychiatrist who are now having to readjust their way of doing therapy with homosexuals, and so in this one particular book it talked about how some high school boys will and it explained everything, like what Johns are, you know, like you know, there's the trick, and then the John which is the man who like, and that if young men sometimes would even allow, they would have sexual, do sexual favors for money and not even really consider themselves gay. And so there was nothing wrong with that being written. It was written for a psychiatrist. I found that book. So that's where it's really important for me to say like today, i wish we had books and conversations of like it's acceptable, you're just like everyone else.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have had to go off searching in places that 12 year olds and 14 year olds should not be searching, because I wouldn't have had any need to go find validation. And if the conversation came up at home because they'd went at home, they didn't agree with what was being taught at school, it was, you know, or the conversation would have then opened up at home. It would have opened the door for that conversation, which there was no door. So I know I'm going on about that, but it's with everything going on right now And I reflect on that early part of my story And then all of the book banning that's happening now and the you know, the hatred towards drag queens and just all the crazy stuff going on right now.
Speaker 1:It's just it's 40 years later And it's just like let's reinvent the wheel, right, you know? and it's the exact same stuff And I just I wish there was a way I mean this is a start right right here but to let people know the damage here. I am proof, right. I went through years of an allowed looking to be sexually abused because I found validation for what I thought was which I knew was my authentic self. But they're having sex that young and with the people I did. That did not need to be part of my story, but it's the only place I found acceptance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i think so many people. And to the listeners out there, if you're hearing skip story and you're like, yes, yes, that is was my experience, um, you know and you want to let us know, put it in the comments below, or even you can email me. I'll pass on any message to skip. But I think this is really something that's valid And for us to mention right now is that I was also born in the seventies. That was the time I remember Ronald Reagan. I remember being taken to pick it against um, the LGBTQ plus community, pick it against adult bookstores, being in conservative Baptist, Southern Baptist, all of it, having hell rain down on me, the tent revival, all of it, and remembering how we didn't talk about it either. And if you thought you were, you should probably make sure to keep your mouth shut. I mean, i kicked, I kissed the neighbor girl in the fourth grade and never told anyone about it. Right Change?
Speaker 1:Change, change, change.
Speaker 2:Because if I did, it was, i was for sure, going to hell. I was for sure the bad, you know, whatever, and you know so many of us are taught that and it's like they don't have anything new to revive. So they're going to revive the thing that they always have done In therapeutic moments. I've been called a child abuser and a child molester because I'm lesbian, and that is not at all what's going on over here, right, but it's almost that fear And I feel like the fear is coming up now And it's our job to talk about what. What this is and how it is damaging and hurting so many people that don't, i guess I just want to say that don't deserve to be hurt Like there's nothing wrong with them.
Speaker 1:And the right now, my perspective and what I'm seeing is that the damage isn't even coming right now from the church. It's coming from the politicians who are playing on the fears and reawakening a lot of this, because so many churches have tried to go through the reconciliation process And there has been forward movement with many, many churches.
Speaker 1:Not all of them, right, right, but there has been. There has been progress And and I mean we've made more progress in many, in many ways than I ever dreamed imaginable in my lifetime Like the fact that we can get married today was just totally unfathomable, right, it just like wasn't even in our consciousness that that would ever be accepted And that happened. There are so many churches, denominated nations, that split over this, because some people are like no, they are, we accept them. So there has been progress. What I'm seeing right now from my perspective, and it is, it's, and this is not different, because even before it's, the politicians bring it up to spark the fear and get the rhetoric going. And then I mean, look at all the hate crimes that have come up since 2016. You know, and that wasn't the church calling on these hate crimes, that was not the church, that's, that is these politicians who are bringing it up and then playing on the fears of people.
Speaker 2:And maybe it's two. it's a realization that none of us are in in this alone, And what I mean by that is you and I are right now in a co-creation state where we're creating an awareness from our stories, right, and we're doing it through this platform. you know It's so multi-layered And, yes, it's politicians and there's a co-creation that happens with that. But then there's also politicians that are totally supportive. I mean, i wish I could remember a name, the one that was just nominated in Montana and she's trans And she's amazing. I'll put her information in the comments below. But there's all these people that are starting to stand up and say that we don't need to fear. There's no fear that needs to be had here and how we continue to show and tell people through our co-creation of our existence in this world. So you've been through so many different things in your life And if you were to highlight the major turning point for you, where would that be? Were you decided your capital truth, your all of it like. this is my moment that I am shifting.
Speaker 1:I was 39. I had been doing drugs and alcohol of various kinds for 20 years And at 39, i had given up my music career Actually that was like at 36, so that I could become a crystal meth dealer, because I thought that would be so romantic. Three years later, i thought it was going to be so cool. Three years later I had had the drugs just were not doing it for me. I had had enough sex to try everything I ever wanted to, at least twice to make sure I really did or did not like it. And I had to have people at my house and guys would be naked and playing in the other room And I'd be out on the sofa curled up in a fetal position just feeling so alone And I was like I don't want to have sex anymore, i want to be held. And I was so depressed.
Speaker 1:One morning I came to and I just thought today is the day the pain ends And just go to the yell and jump. And I had been afraid to get on the yell for several months And the yell in Chicago is the subway And I had been afraid to get on the yell for several months And because I kept visualizing falling on the tracks. Whether it was on purpose or by accident didn't matter, because I just kept visualizing that When I was there and the train would come by, i'd be holding on to the light pole as a station pulled in just to make sure. And this morning I was like go do it, just go do it. And I had suicidal ideolation different times in my life. There was never a moment that I was like do it, make a plan. To me, that was making a plan, go do it. And there was something about and I thought you've messed up every opportunity that life has given you the last 20 years. You get a little bit of success, you sabotage a little more success And you dig the hole deeper. A little more success And you go even. It was just like this roller coaster And I was done And I thought you're almost 40. And you've messed up the last 20 years of your life. Actually, i said fucked up the last 20 years of life. I forgot. I can say fuck on your show. So I'm really happy about that And yay. And you fucked up the last half of your life. Just go do it.
Speaker 1:And there was something about that moment. It was that moment that the thought changed. I'm like, well, wait a minute, if you're 40 and you've messed up the last 20 years, what if you do something the next 20 years to make up for the last 20? And then you'll only be 60. And 60 is not that old And better not be. I'm almost there And wow, skip, if you lived to be 60, you could live to be 80. And that just blew me away, because I had never seen my life past 40. I had tried to visualize my life past 40 before And I just never did. But it was in that moment that I was like, wow, your life doesn't have to be over, it could be half over.
Speaker 2:I hear.
Speaker 1:I went up and I got on the L And I went and got help And yeah that was the moment.
Speaker 2:In that moment, what was your truth, if you could say it in this day, in?
Speaker 1:that moment, my truth was I want to live, i want to live. That was it. That was the truth. I want to live, and I see that now. That's in my recovery work. It's like who is God? And we get to create our own perception of God or allow our own perception of God. And for me, that was my first experience of God, gift of desperation, because it was in that gift that I chose life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, There was a point when I was like I'm either going to take my own life or I'm going to change it right now. And how many of the listeners out there have had that thought, that have had those moments of this kind of moment of decision, of? I mean, for you it's like that gift of desperation. For me it was like this. It's almost this gift of depth, this depth of acknowledgement of where I was truly at in my life and what I wanted to shift. And so I'd like to just venture in, because I've, by the time this comes out, I would have already volunteered for the AIDS Life Cycle. Again, It's a beautiful love bubble that I get to be in for seven days And it really is in the support of people who have HIV and AIDS and medical care and mental health. And can you tell me about your experience of getting an HIV and now in your life?
Speaker 1:Sure, the part of how I contracted HIV is. It's a story that is difficult to fold. One is, you know, i don't like to talk about the incident, but the other part is the incident and getting HIV are two different things. So I was very sexually active. I was using intravenous needles. From what I remember, i always use clean needles on my own, but there was a person that I hung out with kind of regularly who always had really good drugs. So I like to hang out with him And I knew this guy was not really trustworthy. Like one time we were together and I had been up for like seven days.
Speaker 1:When you're on crystal meth you only sleep, like when you pass out, and that's usually like for me. I slept on Sundays, That was it. Sunday nights I slept And I was with him and I was passing out and I kind of came to and he was barebacking me And I was just like whoa, you know, dude. Well, a couple weeks later, you know, i continued to hang out with him. I mean, right there, that's a sign of like dude's not to be trusted. But I continued to hang out with him And a few weeks later he got, i was home, it was Sunday I was passed out. I was doing my sleep thing. He had the doorman of my apartment because I wasn't answering the phone. I didn't hear it. He had the doorman come up and banging on my door with him to make sure I was okay which was whatever. So he came into my house. I fell back to sleep.
Speaker 1:I woke up the next morning and my clothes were off, i'm in my bed, i thought I was on my couch And he said I finally got to cream five loads in your ass. And I was like what? And you know, when I went to the bathroom and I'm like yeah, okay, and two weeks later it was like textbook. You know, two weeks later I didn't just get like a little sniffle or colder bed sweats, i got really sick. My zero conversion was really, really bad And which is kind of a blessing because I could have gone a very long time and not know And my viral load was like in the millions. I mean, it just was so freaking active And I went to. I was sick for a week And my, my former partner was like I'm either calling an ambulance or you're getting in a cab when we're going to the hospital.
Speaker 1:And I went to the hospital. They thought I had meningitis because of my symptoms and so forth, and I was just like I don't have meningitis, i know it's not. I mean, i knew what it was. I was like I don't have meningitis because the guy I was hanging out with I knew he had stopped taking his HIV meds nine months before, because he, i knew that right, and so I, you know, i told the doctor. I was like you can do a spinal tap, but I I, you know it's, i'm zero converting. She asked, like how do you know? And I told her what happened, and she said my God, mr Sam's, if that ever happens again, go to the emergency room right away within 48 hours. We can stop it. Like why didn't I, why didn't I know about this? And at that time, they really. She was like the administration in Washington doesn't want people to think of it as the morning after pill, so that was a big lesson, but obviously it was. It was too late for that, but that's the first time I thought of wow, i was raped, you know, i just so.
Speaker 1:The difficult part about that was, though, was when people, when I would tell them what happened. The first thing that came to mind for many people was are you sure that's how you got it? That just made me pull back. It's like I'm not sure how I got it. Yeah, i think it is. Today. I still think it is. I don't know. I'm not sure how I got it, but it doesn't fucking matter. I was raped. I was raped.
Speaker 1:Whether that's how I got it, that's the part that's really confusing to me and was confusing to me that a lot of times when I tell people I'm HIV, i'll just say the event. I won't tell them what happened, because that becomes part of the story that's lost. It's like are you sure You were using drugs? You were being promiscuous, are you sure? It's like the motherfucker raped me. So that again, in my recovery work I've worked a lot with that Talk about fucking resentment. And in my recovery work. So I was carrying that guilt Like, oh, i should have trusted him. I shouldn't have trusted him. And, yes, i was being promiscuous, i was using needles. Oh, it's my fault. And in doing the recovery work, when it came to him, it was like, yeah, i resent this motherfucker because he fucking raped me, probably gave me HIV.
Speaker 1:What's my part in it? Fucking rape me. What's my part in it Right, and my part was I was fucking high out of my mind for years And I was not capable of making healthy decisions for myself. Doesn't do in.
Speaker 1:Admitting that and recognizing that and taking responsibility for that does not put shame on me And it does not take away any of the responsibility off of him. Right, i mean it's a criminal act. Right, i tried to pursue, but it was already too late and to pursue any kind of legal action or anything But for raping me there was no proof. So there's that. That doesn't take away from any of that. It's criminal. I wish he could have been convicted.
Speaker 1:But my part is I had tried to get sober before but I wasn't doing it because it wasn't, it was always for someone else. I wasn't taking responsibility for my disease, and being able to take responsibility for that part of it is very empowering, because it was through that that I was able to forgive myself. And then actually, once I forgave myself, it got to a point where I forgave him And his forgiveness is forgiving me peace. It's not about taking away their guilt, it's not about anything like that, but it's forgiving me peace. Letting go of that is the past. It's behind. I know how I can take care of the situation going forward and taking care of myself is stay sober. Stay sober so that you can make responsible decisions for yourself and that you can take care of yourself And, if you're in positions like that, that you have the means and the wits about you that are necessary to take appropriate action.
Speaker 2:Well, i just, i mean, I want to honor you and thank you so much for telling your story and being so vulnerable and real. You and I know that there are so many occasions where people in the LGBTQ plus community are victims of a lot of I guess I just will say a lot of things, and that gets overlooked so often by something else. And so I just want to tell you thank you for your vulnerability and sharing that story. If you, in the last minutes, the few minutes that we have, if there is someone out there that's wondering whether they are worthy, whether they are enough, maybe they're sitting there saying I don't, this happened to me too and I don't know what to do with it. I don't know. You know they have just self-shaming and judgment that we're all taught to do. What would you tell them?
Speaker 1:First, you're not alone And there are plenty of resources available. I would be glad to help anyone find them right, whether they're in your community or not. Thank God we have the internet today. Right As far as being worthy, you are worthy. Why? Because you are, you live, you exist. That in of itself makes you worthy of love, because that's in my belief and my spirituality. I mean, there's love or fear, and fear is not real. It's a made-up story. Love is what really exists, and everything else are these stories that just take away from it.
Speaker 1:And getting to that truth is a spiritual thing, and I think that's a very important thing, because the truth is a spiritual journey. There is the mental and the emotional and the physical aspects of it, but for me it's a spiritual journey. I found mine in the 12 steps. I've also found it through different forms of meditation and so forth, and it's different for everyone. And by spiritual I am not talking about God or religion, i'm talking about connection. You know this conversation that you and I are right now is a spiritual connection. It's total, 100% a spiritual connection, and so that's part of my spiritual journey, and so connecting with those people that can help you along with that spiritual journey. It could be in the form of a church, it could be the form of a therapist, it could be a form of a support group, but that spiritual connection is what really heals. And the other thing is I can heal myself the best when I help heal others.
Speaker 2:Well, this has been, i mean, one of my most favorite episodes I've ever recorded.
Speaker 1:I feel like Oh, you say that to all the guests.
Speaker 2:I don't Although I have all the time kick ass guests, i mean, don't get me wrong But just the vulnerability that you brought today and the realness, and I know that this is going to be. Obviously it'll live on the internet for a very long time, but it will also touch so many lives And I just am so grateful for you showing up 100% yourself, 100% of the time. Just so very grateful.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Okay, so skip. Tell people how that, how they can get ahold of you.
Speaker 1:The easiest way to remember is just to remember my name skip Sam's, sams, skip Sam's, so skip Sam'scom. if they look up on YouTube, they can find my videos YouTubecom. slash skip Sam's. Facebook slash skip Sam's. I am skip myster. on Instagram. You'll see me with rainbow glasses and rainbow Cape, but love that.
Speaker 2:Okay, and for those of you just want to let you know, i'll make sure to have all of skips links in the comments below, both on the YouTube channel and on the podcast. Please feel free to reach out to him. And yeah, thank you very much for being on the show.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, thank you.
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